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  • #4549

    Yeshuash
    Forwardist

    Will it be possible to see WF games on GoG.com in the future?
    It has become one of the better alternatives for Steam.

    #4563

    Basty
    Forwardist

    Very unlikely.
    GoG games aren’t protected by any how so they can be easily distributed without owner’s consent which would be bad for small company like WayFoward who also needs to feed it’s people and earn something in order to stay in business so it wouldn’t be bought off by other companies like namely EA which would hurt all the hard work that WayFoward has put towards to their games and I don’t want to see that happen.

    I can understand your appeal for GoG though, prices aren’t bad and selection is very wide and you don’t need to deal with any sort of DRM. Perhaps in 10 or so years the game might appear in GoG but as of now, it wouldn’t be very profitable.

    #4585

    Tekaramity
    Forwardist

    Despite its potential for frowned-upon sharing, GoG is a noble alternative to Steam – and one with an increasingly robust software library. If WF were to disseminate their titles onto GoG, goodwill oughta be the root cause. GoG fosters a lotta goodwill.

    #4654

    Jinpachiro
    Forwardist

    I don’t really see the drm thing an issue. Pirates are going to crack it anyway. It always happens. May as well just release it on as many services as you can to broaden your audience.

    #4664

    Basty
    Forwardist

    @Jinpachiro
    Yup and at while they’re at it they’ll add in couple of nifty programs that’ll check out personal information out of your computer or just choke it up as it is.
    The point of Steam is that not every child could easily just crack games up for it. Not to mention, cracks will always have issue or two and if you don’t know what you are doing, you might mess up your computer with them.

    #4666

    Jinpachiro
    Forwardist

    Blockquote Yup and at while they’re at it they’ll add in couple of nifty programs that’ll check out personal information out of your computer or just choke it up as it is.

    You’re kidding me right? Unless you get a crack from some kind of backwater chinese site you will never ever have them put malware in it. The pirate scene is all about reputation in their eyes and they don’t want to damage it at all.

    Blockquote The point of Steam is that not every child could easily just crack games up for it.

    This is true byt steam games new always have a crack the next day after release. Only things like always online drm can delay this but it still gets done at the very least a month later. See Assassin’s creed 2. Piracy is always going to happen no matter what you can never prevent it.

    Blockquote Not to mention, cracks will always have issue or two and if you don’t know what you are doing, you might mess up your computer with them.

    What kind of issues will someone get just copying pasting? You can’t mess up your computer doing that no matter how dumb you are. Also chances are if you know howto pirate you’re smart enough not to make any kind of catastrophic mistake.

    Piracy exist on not only pc but on the Wii U, PS3 and 360 platforms. People can just as easily pirate the game on those since those systems really only require a flashdrive to get the ability to pirate. Wayforward should just release their game on whatever platforms they can or are willing to release on and hope people will buy the game.

    I hate pirates as much as the next guy but limiting your consumer base is not the way to combat it

    #4667

    Lorley
    Forwardist

    Kinda ironic how the guy with the Risky Boots avatar comes in defense of piracy.

    #4670

    Jinpachiro
    Forwardist

    I’m not defending piracy, in fact I despise it. I just accept the fact that it exist and it can not be stopped as proven with many developers attempts to combat it.

    #4671

    Basty
    Forwardist

    @Jinpachiro
    You can get malwares from just any site as from the others. It doesn’t require some random chinese server.
    You are foolish to trust they do these cracks just out kindness of their hearts.

    Yes, there are some autistic programming gods that can crack a game just with 15 minutes of work. True that.
    But does it mean devs should make it easy for everyone to distribute? I don’t think so. Every site does have their risks.

    Also depending on a game it’s not just as simple as “Copy and Paste” work since most of cracks especially newer ones
    heavily rely on making modifications to windows;es registry and if something goes wrong in windows;es registry,
    it basically means you have damaged your system and you may have to reinstall windows because one of these illegal cracks.

    Some cracks work better on some version of the system others on other system version of the system so there’s also that.

    #4673

    Jinpachiro
    Forwardist

    Blockquote You can get malwares from just any site as from the others. It doesn’t require some random chinese server. You are foolish to trust they do these cracks just out kindness of their hearts.

    Yes I do agree not all crackers aren’t doing this for nothing. They get loads of add revenue from people that frequent their sites thus they have a source of income. They also compete with other cracking groups to get it done first so they can get that add revenue. Why jeopordize that when malware can easily be detected? there are also people who do it just for the sake of doing it

    Blockquote Yes, there are some autistic programming gods that can crack a game just with 15 minutes of work. True that. But does it mean devs should make it easy for everyone to distribute? I don’t think so. Every site does have their risks.

    And yet it still happens. Pirates are gonna pirate no matter what. It all becomes easy to access and distribute after the initial day Why limit your consumer base just to delay them a day? Hell I know some people who refuse to use steam just because it is a form of drm. Steam doesn’t bother me as I own over 450 but you have to understand not everyone wants to support it. Heck on some websites I go to some people pirate a game if it is on steam just for that reason alone.

    Blockquote Also depending on a game it’s not just as simple as “Copy and Paste” work since most of cracks especially newer ones heavily rely on making modifications to windows;es registry and if something goes wrong in windows;es registry, it basically means you have damaged your system and you may have to reinstall windows because one of these illegal cracks.

    You are extremely foolish to believe this. Absolutely no crack for any game new or old requires you to modify your registry. Hell go to skidrow and look up any crack for any recent game. None of them require to edit your registry. Every new game is just an exe edit. Hell I’d link it to you myself to show you but linking to such things weren’t against wayforwards tos. There is absolutely no risk to your windows

    #4674

    Basty
    Forwardist

    @Jinpachiro My apologies, I described what I meant wrong. What I meant to say was, that cracks will change the registry of your system in order to make the game to work which especially applies to newer games. Plus, even if you have a crack, you might have to download several patches on top of that. Not only that, not every malware are visible to anti-virus programs. There are tons of them and new ones are being invented everyday by the very same programmers who make and publish these cracks for consumers to download. Your computer will never be safe unless you never plug it in to a internet.

    and yes, unfortunately it does happen no matter what kind of protection we put on games but it still doesn’t mean we should make it so easy that even child can do it. That is kinda like saying “Let’s leave banks safes open for everyone to step in. Some gun maniac is going to open it with a stick of dynamite anyway. Hmh…” Steam DRM is actually the nicest one out there, if people don’t like it. Well, it can’t be helped but at least I’m pleased that offline games don’t require more than registering game online and that’s that. Some Steam games don’t even require that much.

    If you have internet access to download games from GoG, then you most certainly can register them on Steam.

    Also, yes, I do understand that not everyone supports it, that is not the point in here.

    #4708

    Yeshuash
    Forwardist

    You know what’s the difference? When i buy something on GoG I BUY the game. Steam is an over glorified rental system and if it ever goes down I will lose all my games bought there.

    When i buy a game on GoG i can download the installer and put it on a external hard drive for safe keeping. I don’t need to be connected to the Internet or have any other external programs running in the background to install it.

    Steam or any DRM for that matter ever stopped piracy for long. Pick any game on Steam and i guaranty that there is an easily accessible torrent on line. The only thing that DRM’s managed to do is to **** off allot of potential customers that could not play there games do to crappy DRM implementation.

    I’m just saying that WF should take under consideration every possible way of distribution and not cross something out just because “the Internet said so”.

    #4713

    Lorley
    Forwardist

    Steam is an over glorified rental system and if it ever goes down I will lose all my game bought there.

    You… do know that’s not how Steam works, right? They’ve explained what would happen if Steam ever went down, which is already unlikely to happen considering how much money it makes.

    #4714

    Yeshuash
    Forwardist

    You… do now that is exactly how it works right?

    In the user agreement it states “Steam provides ACCESS to games”, you don’t truly own them, you buy a permission to play them.

    #4720

    Basty
    Forwardist

    @Yeshuash
    Steam DRM is only crappy if you don’t have internet access at all but the same thing is going to apply to GoG as well.
    Again, if you can access to GoG and download games from there, you can do the same for Steam. All the offline games that I have on Steam don’t require 24/7 online possibility so I can play them even with crappier internet connections. Only form of DRM that is truly going to chew your leg are games that either use Cloud “like Sim City and Diablo 3” even when you just want to play them offline or games bought from Xbox live which still has 24 hour check ups.

    You might not have been alive on amiga days but especially back then, piracy was all high and literally
    nobody had original copy of the game because of how easy it was to make copies of the game.
    Heck, 99% of the games I got with my amiga from a donor “I’m a collector” were just copies and only about 5 or 8 of them were legal floppies.

    Now I can understand if people are annoyed if they have to plug their consoles to internet in order to play games but that is a different story from PC
    which doesn’t have any console “PS2 namely” alike piracy prevention system.

    Also, in very unlikely scene than Steam will ever go down

    Valve have stated that they would make all games available to play
    without steam.

    Also, Steam does have backup function so you can make a backup copy to your disc.
    It does work with most of the games.

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